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Scenario 1: Playing as Europe

Friday, March 02, 2007
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In this map you are playing as Red and it is your turn. You have made a number of treaties and have conquered Europe.

The history of the game is as follows (Each turn is a column).

1	2	3	4
Blue	Green	Yellow	Red (To play)
Didn't cash	Cashed cards: Got 6	Cashed cards: Got 8	Gets 10 if cashed
Cards left: 4	Card left: 1	Cards left: 1	Cards left: 4 and has a combination

There is a treaty between Red and Green. The treaty is that Red will not attack North Africa, Egypt and East Africa from Southern Europe, Eastern Europe and Middle East and in return Green will not attack Southern Europe, Eastern Europe and Ukraine. This treaty lasts until only Red and Green are left in the game.

Considering that Blue is next and that he might have a combination of cards, and that Yellow is getting very powerful, what is the best strategy for Red to follow? What sort of diplomacy will you try? Would you try to make a treaty with Blue for Greenland? Or will you try to attack Blue while it is weak, but try to withstand its subsequent move next turn?

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By Imported Post @ Friday, March 16, 2007 11:23 AM

I thought it was to place all of your troops in Ukraine (including cards), and attack Ural, country due south, and then the Mideast. You aren't in a treaty from there Wink Then attack all of Africa, andend turn in North Africa. I would NOT attack the country in Europe blue controls, but rather, do that next turn. Yelow is not a threat yet, his troops are too far away

Bri

By Imported Post @ Friday, March 16, 2007 11:23 AM

As I am a man of politics, I would most likely assume some heavy negotiation with the player in Africa and S. America. Seeing as though he holds Cental America, I would prompt him to build up his numbers there without attacking. I, red, would direct all my power to Iceland. I would anticipate that the N. America player would try to win back Iceland, but not as much as he would want to win Central America and the five armies it would ensure. In the worst case scenario, my attack on Iceland would lose and the border would be left undefended. If that happened (especially since blue may have cards), I would take the blow and wait until next turn, when I may have cards and he will only have three new armies to place. As for yellow, I would politely encourage him to invade Alaska, because it is in his "best interests".

Loricatus

By Imported Post @ Friday, March 16, 2007 11:29 AM

its is obvious go through europe and then treaty with asia and invade notrth america through greenland and then you can crush south america then you will be getting 15 extra battalions per turn. and asia will be shitting themselves Smile (easier said than done though) but i have pulled off a situation similar to this!

Katharos

By Imported Post @ Friday, March 16, 2007 11:29 AM

Well consider the following...I'id say first to blue, that if he would give me
Iceland, id get my 5 bonus and even attempt a cease fire at that location,
so he can put all his troups up against that threat in Central America,
considering next turn he gets to cash in. Once i get that in order id put
all of my troops in the Ukraine and begin the slow process of weakening the
yellow group. Id honor the treaty with green and even if i run into those
ten armies in Siam i could fight my way through most of Asia with my 5
bonus armies to get a risk card every turn, until I am able to put up a
formidable attack. The blue threat in Asia would(hopefully)leave because
he needs to fight down in central america, but if it doesnt leave I have a
much better chance at getting cards to cash in than he does, considering
his only option at first is to fight off central america to get his 5
bonus. So everything(barring horrible rolls) should work out fine.

Mr. Politics

By Imported Post @ Friday, March 16, 2007 11:30 AM

i never make treaties unless desprate. in this case all ready having a treaty with green, who is due to get 5 xtra armies, i suggest to blue (who is next and might have a set of cards) to take out his continental armies and i will cash in and attempt to take out yellow's continental armies. we play "no one owns a continent" and if someone doesn't "do their duty" whoever does not own the continent teaches the lesson rather harshly.

RED MAN

By Imported Post @ Friday, March 16, 2007 11:30 AM

My plan is one army on each west and south europe, the rest on Scandanavia. 
I then would attack ice land and if I had 2 or more armies up on greenland 
I'd take it over. Next turn whether or not blue gets a set he can't take it 
all back and if he tries will be weakend and attacked from all sides

Xerxes

By Imported Post @ Friday, March 16, 2007 11:31 AM

I would get the 10 armies from the cards and put 2 or 3 on Scaninavia to 
take ice land and try to convice Blue it was only for the continent. They I 
would make a treaty with blue along that border until Yellow is gone. Then 
I would try and get everyone to gang up on Yellow since his is becoming so 
powerful. Once Yellow is gone, chances are Blue will moved his armies from 
Greenland. That means he will be and easy target for a 1-hit invaion as 
long as Green ganged up on Yellow and not Blue. Then fortify you borders 
and try to take Asia. This should be easy because Blue was to weak to 
control Asia well and Green had only one entance to Asia. As long as you 
can contain Green afterwards, you will no doubt win!

Steve

By Imported Post @ Friday, March 16, 2007 11:36 AM

My solution to the scenario would be to trade in cards and place 6 in Scandanavia, 4 in Western Europe, and 3 in Southern Europe. I would then attack Iceland, but not Greenland, hoping to convince blue to use the armies he'll recieve from trading in cards to control North America and pick up territory in Asia (though I would have no intention of allowing blue to recieve five armies by keeping North America). I would then attack North Africa from Western Europe and move on to capture as much of South America as possible, except for Venezuala as that would expose me to attack from green's seven armies in Mexico. These attacks would essentially put green out of the game and would put me in a good position to possibly hold both Europe and South America next turn. Green would probably be upset about me breaking the treaty, but as long as I leave two or three armies in North Africa, he wouldn't have much of a chance to break into Europe.

Mike

By Imported Post @ Friday, March 16, 2007 11:36 AM

across the pond , and in texas, i never make treaties unless very desprate. in the case described ( already having an allience with green ) i would make a deal with blue , who is up next, trade in cards and try to break yellow and have blue disrupt all the continental armies. this way i am not stuck in the middle of the board defending numerous boaders only getting territorial armies while everyone else is getting free armies for continents + territorial armies

Donnie

By Imported Post @ Friday, March 16, 2007 11:37 AM

I, personally, would make a treaty with Blue. The treaty would go that he 
forfeits his hold on my Europe, and then we have a truce. This leaves him 
to either duke it out with Green or Yellow. Since I have a treaty with 
Green and Blue, now, I would convince Green and Blue to assist in invading 
Yellow. This way, as you mentioned so many times, Yellow cannot fight the 
world at once, and thus he becomes weaker. 
 
Once Yellow collapses, I would make a treaty with the weaker of the two so 
that I could gain credibility for sympathy in future games. Also, assuming 
that I am the more agressive player, it will be easier to wipe out the 
weaker one, after we wipe out our initial target.

Sean

By Imported Post @ Friday, March 16, 2007 11:37 AM

When I play treaties are commonly broken so there is no point to them. But 
in this instance if green and I have a treaty I would cash in my cards then 
be forced to take Afganistan from the yellow in order to keep them at bay. 
Next I would attack Iceland then take over Greenland and end my turn. after 
I would have three more colonies and my full 5 for Europe and have a 
significant advantage in both Asia and North America. My next turn 
(assuming I do not lose any territories) I will acquire 8 armies, enough to 
defend my new countries or attack and get new ones. I would then move up 
through Asia against the Blue and come into North America through Alaska, 
thus sealing the fate of the Blue and Yellow and making me strong enough to 
destroy the Green in a couple of tunrs.

Canadian Risk

By Imported Post @ Friday, March 16, 2007 11:38 AM

The best solution in my view is to fortify in the Ukraine and hope green 
and yellow engage in an erosive war. Then, take iceland and hold off and 
see what happens.

Eric

By Grant Blackburn @ Saturday, June 30, 2007 5:04 PM

First, you need to get Europe. You need to do it decisively, so cash you cards and place at least armies in Scandanavia to ensure you have a good advantage in winning the continent and also keeping it by taking Greenland and fortifying back to Iceland. This will put more pressure on Blue, but will not harm you, assuming your defenses in Iceland are at least 6 or more armies. If you fall to 6 or fewer armies, call off the attack on Greenland. You really should have at least 7 or more armies as Blue will go next and potentially turn in cards. If he does, he will get 15 armies to place, and since he has to counter the threat in Central America, he can place no more than 7 of his armies against you. Of course, he could launch an all out attack on you, which you would have no defense, so you should consider who you are playing agianst!

Next put the rest of your reinforcements (5 armies) into the Ukraine and begin to slowly grow through Afghanistan. Take out his five armies there and leave enough behind in the Ukraine for defense. Alternately, you chould choose to whittle down the armies in Afghanistan to 1-2 and do the same for the Greenland to keep your borders safe with out having to place any of your armies jeopardy because you can't fortify them out of a territory.

By kevyn rogan @ Sunday, September 16, 2007 5:35 AM

priority hes to be iceland, so i would try to make a deal with blue that once i have europ i will not attack n.america leaving him free to concentrate on claiming that continent. i would then attack some of the yellow forces in south western asia protecting the green units from attack there and allowing them to concentrate on stopping blue. hopefully the green player will feel safe and will move his strength into s.america leaving africa weak enough for me to sweep through next turn

By Great Alan @ Saturday, October 27, 2007 10:15 AM

Firstly,cash the troops and then recapture Iceland and even capture Greenland if possible.
Then,plan to take Africa.Meanwhile,watch out the action of the powerful yellow.

By Grant Blackburn @ Thursday, December 20, 2007 8:43 PM

I am beginning to rethik my strategy here. I wonder if abandoning Europe might not be a bad idea. Go for Africa instead and neutralize that threat, eliminate the bonus three armies he gets and migrate south. This may actually give you a better position and not tie you down to Europe so much. I tend to like Europe because most people stay away and it gives you 5 bonus armies, but in this case I wonder if it might not be a good idea to take Africa, especially since it is so weak.

By Grant Blackburn @ Thursday, December 20, 2007 8:45 PM

Better yet, forget the continents and take out North Africa, then invade South America and rub him off both bonuses!

By Ryan Stratton @ Monday, February 18, 2008 3:54 PM

I would not cash the cards first of all. Second put two men in scandavia and retake Icleand. Use this to form an Alliance with Blue. Attack Ural from Ukraone leave it with 1-2 men. The goal is to try and anger green while demonstaring your power to yellow. Your next turn cash in and invade Africa. Green will be facing a two prong attack and will be forced to withdraw to S.A while you take most of Africa. Yellow will take Green's Asia land in his turn. Now that Blue has N.A. and is safe from Europe he will focus on Asia and maybe try and take venezula. Green will be a non factor. Yellow and Blue duke it out in Asia. You take Africa. Then invade N.A. and Asia win game.

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